Payment

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Thursday 30 November 2006 7:51 pm

Finally my payment from 12by12day arrived today, finally. For me they are late, very late. They usually pay in 7 days sharp, but this time they are 3 days late. I have to wait for 10 days to get paid. I understand that they grow bigger, but late for payment is not a good sign. Well I must see for my next pending payment which schedule to be paid on December 2nd 2006 (if follow the ordinary schedule), but I thought it’s gonna be paid on December 7th 2006. I hope they gonna pay faster :)

I’m waiting for my 1stdimension payment now, my first payment from them. I think their trick to open a few seperate programs is a good idea. It’s easier to manage a program with a few limited members than to manage one programs with a lot of members. I’m gonna wacth for their progress.

Waiting for pending

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Tuesday 28 November 2006 10:56 pm

Payment from 12b12d is late. My payment not credited yet. They already explain in their member area that payments are 1 day slower. And that isn’t a good sign, it’s could mean they lack of fresh money. Even they explain everything and seems reasonable, but we must keep alert. Like I said yesterday, let’s see how they doing next week. I think if they stayed like this untill next week, this could be a very bad sign. I think many people will reducing their investment on the program :)   Well, personally I really don’t hope so :)

My upgrade units in 1stdimensionalads already expired yesterday. I lost 2 day because I didn’t surf the minimum credits. It was because of my slow internet connection :(   It always disconnected while I’m surfed in there, and unfortunatetly I forgot to continue my surf. Well silly me, I’m a forgetfull person :)

I’m waiting for my pending payment too from 1stdimension now. Let’s see how fast they gonna pay. I will updating here if my payment had arrive. I don’t receive any payment from anywhere in the past 2 days, still waiting patiencetly :)

Monday review

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Monday 27 November 2006 2:16 pm

New week is begin, I have a lot of work this week. It is the end of the month, and we will welcome December soon. For many online income player December is critical moment, if program could trough December succesfully maybe they will stay longer. I must remind u that 12dailypro critical moment was came at December 2005. There was a lot of bad roumours at that time, and finally all of the roumours became true at January. I remember 12dailypro annouced that they will not using e-gold again in December and finally changed the payment processors into EMO in January, and that’s the beginning of dissaster of Scamed Stormpay, FBI problems, and exct, exct, exct, and finally going down :)

I will reducing “play investment” in December. FYI, I called it “play investment”, coz I always tell everyone that this is not a real investment, I would rather consider all as a game. That’s the reason why my blog title is “The Game of Online Income:)

I’m still waiting for payment from 12b12d, and I read intersting announcement in member area of 12b12d. So there are some changing rules, the upgrade package now it’s up to 3 units, total summary of upgrade package is rising into 12k. Well the truth is, I’m afraid of the changed rules, because 3 upgrade units is means more work on payments. I’m afraid the payment could be late and there is a term changing, that explain there is no guarantee they will pay at 7th business day after expiration unit.
Well, I’ll put my attention on them and on every single changing rules and reasons, we’ll see one week from now. Even I still beleive they will still run and pay, but I feel something will happen. First they could late for payments next week because of the rules changed, OR they will became bigger than now if they never late for payments even the rules were changed. Payments is very sensitif matter in this business :)

Bad Comments

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Sunday 26 November 2006 8:56 am

I saw 2 bad comments about 12b12d sites at the forums, the bad comments was about payments. I try to look their reason and I found out that they didn’t read the rules carefully and impatience or I beleive they broke some rules. There was a member who wrote that he really needs the money for sick parents exct, exct. But his pending time didn’t reach 7 days yet, that’s why he didn’t receive the payment.

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Late?

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Friday 24 November 2006 10:00 pm

I joined “Old Program” yesterday. It is 13dailypro :D   Yes it is old program, and I hope I don’t choose wrong program. There always big risk if joined old program. As u all know, in this game we must do fast in fast out. But I have another reason, I cannot searching for new programs right now because it takes time, so I decided to join famous and stable program. And I made decision join and put my money on them :)

13dailypro was open few months ago. I thought they was open before 12by12day, and they already face few problems but they could survive. It proof that they are stable and in good admin hand :) I already put my money on them and I will give a little review later. And I’ll updating if i got paid :)

Autosurf Tutorial from 12b12d Site

Posted by bennq | Notes | Friday 24 November 2006 11:19 am

Few weeks ago I wanted to make Autosurf Tutorial step by step from the beginning, but then i found some interesting e-book in 12by12day site, so I canceled my plan coz I thought it is better to read that e-book than I made it myself. That book contain complete tutorial about autosurf and autosurf world. I beleive this book could be usefull for those who wanted to join autosurf but have no idea what is autosurf is all about :)

U can download this great e-book here

12by12day News

Posted by bennq | Program News | Thursday 23 November 2006 9:13 am

Today Dave send an email. It’s a progress news of 12by12day :) 95% of that email contain good news, but there is still little bad news. Fortunatetly I think the bad news would not influence progress of the program at all :) This program still going strong, but we still must be carefull, wacth the progress on the error of the account balance. I hope it would be fix soon :)

12by12day email:

Hi Everybody,
We have not had an update for a while, so I
thought it was time to let you know where we are at, 
and where we are going.

Firstly, a warm welcome to all the new members (and there are plenty of
you).  Many of you will not have seen an update like this before so,
please take the time to click on the link on your members page and check
back through a couple of the back issues.   You will probably find some
info there that is not explained clearly in the faqs or terms.  Also
take the time to visit the forum.  There are many helpful people in there
who can answer any questions you may have, and any important updates
are also posted there.

The Good News.

12by12daily continues to grow, and is now the undisputed number 1 in
the autosurf industry.  Despite a few trying times in the beginning, and
a few script glitches that we are still working on, we continue to pay,
and pay, ontime, everytime. Our membership is growing everyday, and
currently stands at 35000. Our alexa rating has gone through the roof, 
and
we are currently among the top 2500 visited websites on the internet.
Btw, it is nice to see some of the earlier members who jumped ship in
the beginning, returning to the fold, and receiving payouts.  If you
follow the transaction id numbers in your account, you will see that we
will very soon make our 100,000th cashout. You should all feel very proud
of our achievements, and feel confident in promoting 12by12daily as the
very best there is.

Improvements.  We are constantly working behind the scenes making
improvements to the website.  If you have had to use the contact link
recently you will notice a dropdown with a list of subject headings.  
This
has been in place for about a week now, and has dramatically improved the
response times for email replies.  It has also enabled me to prioritise
the emails, and process the important ones, such as missing payments,
or hacked egold accounts, much quicker than I previously did.  Please
choose the correct heading when contacting us to ensure the most
efficient processing of your request.

We are working very hard to complete the process of fixing the problems
relating to incorrect cash balances, and pending payout amounts.  Most
of these problems stem back to the early times when we had a lot of
server issues and many members were not able to surf everyday as required.
In my generosity, I stated then, that all members would be paid for all
12 days whether they surfed or not.  This created further problems in
that area, as we corrected the pending payouts we messed up the rest of
the info.  I fear a lot of members have been taking advantage of this
situation, and not bothering to surf.  In order to get the database
fixed we need to stop that practise, or we will never get it fixed.  From
now on you must surf everyday, as per the faqs, to be paid for that day.
We should then be able to have the database totally fixed sometime
within the next three weeks. (One full cycle)

Many members have asked me about the possibility of owning more than
one account.  I will look at this in certain circumstances, subject to
strict conditions, however there is an easier solution.  As of now, the
maximum account level permitted will be lifted from $6,000 to $12,000.
In most cases that will alleviate the need for multiple accounts. Now
we can truly be called 12by12by12daily.

Referral commissions are continuing to be paid daily.  Ok, I admit, I
might miss a day here or there, but most days we pay referral
commissions.  
For the new members who may not have read the previous updates, 
we
pay referral commission approximately once per month.  This has 3
benefits.  
1.  When you get yours it is a nice surprise and a larger amount
than if we paid it with your upgrades.  2.  It does not corrupt the
database by confusing with your upgrades. This was particularly a problem
when members have more than one upgrade running at the same time. 3.
It also enables me to protect your money by catching the cheaters before
they get paid.  If you visit the forum and go to the "Post here when
you have been paid referral commision" thread, you will be able to see
where we are up to at any given time.

The Bad News

There is not too much bad news.  As you know, we were the subject of a
failed hacker attempt about ten days ago.  This, in itself is not bad
news,  because it highlighted the ability of the security we have in
place to foil such attempts.  The bad news is that when we tried to
restore those members egold account numbers to the correct numbers, 
we found
too many members with upgrades coming from two or more egold accounts.
We also found too many egold numbers linked to more than one
12by12daily account.  
This has resulted in much more checking needed prior to,
and during payouts.  The members concerned will have had their payouts
delayed while we sort out the issues, and unfortunately a few innocent
members have been caught in the crossfire and had their payouts delayed
by a few hours as well. I apologise to the members who were affected in
this way.  Please read the terms and faqs.  Each account must have its
own unique egold account.  If you are tempted to use your account!
to upgrade your wife/brother/friend etc, then don't.  I believe I am
the only autosurf that allows members to refer their family members,
but it is clearly stated in the terms and faqs, that each account must
have its own egold account and email address.  Upgrading with a different
egold account is a breach of the terms, and could result in you losing
any referral commission earned.  Lets be fair here, you cannot earn
referral commission from your own money.

The other bad news does not concern 12by12daily directly, but I am
totally disappointed at the number of members who have allowed 
their egold
accounts to be robbed.  I won't use the word hacked, here, because it
is impossible to hack an egold account.  Egold accounts are accessed by
third parties, by the owner of those accounts inadvertently giving away
their login details.  This may happen by having your email account
hacked, it may happen by clicking on a link in an email pretending to be
from egold, or it may happen by allowing a trojan onto your pc, which
will empty your egold account as soon as you login.  For goodness sakes,
people, protect your money.  Make sure you use the highest security
settings on your egold account, 
and always request a pin by email to login.
Make sure your computer is protected by using antivirus and antispyware
software, and by keeping it up to date.  If you haven't got ewido (Now
known as AVG antispyware), then get it, and run it before ever!
ytime you open your egold account.  If this has happened to you, I do
feel for you, but I am amazed that with the amount of information
available, people will not protect their own money.

I am sorry to end on such a sombre note, but as you can see from the
above news 12by12daily has provided a wonderful opportunity for many
people, and it saddens me to see the benefits being stolen from under our
noses.

Happy surfing
David

MVP Surf News

Posted by bennq | Program News | Wednesday 22 November 2006 8:27 am

Yesterday MVP Surf admin sent an email. It’s a bad news email :( Not really surprising though, I already predicted that they would be down soon. The lost of 6k because of hackers a few months ago finally turned the program down. Last month the admin (Mike) announce that he will try to recover the stolen money with joining MLM and other programs, but I really don’t think he able to recover that money, or it was only his trick to get more people joining his MLM program as his downline. Well we didn’t know the truth, only Mike and God know what really happen :)
All I can say that when he annouce that the program was hacked, it’s a sign to get out of there, no matter what the reason. It’s was a sign that the program will going down soon… And I’m suspicious that Mike is not from US, I have a strong feeling that he is from a non speaking english country. It really shown in his email, his grammar was very bad. Even my grammar is bad too, but I think he is worse. LOL :D

MVP email:

I have some pretty difficult things to decide on for the new site/s.
First if you have an E-gold upgrade that is from new upgrades you will be
getting paid as usual. Alertpay will be suspending the account most
likely tomorrow because member that is out $70 is going to be complaining
in the morning.

What I did to protect the members from selfish people that can't wait
was, I refunded all the transaction until there was no money left in the
account. I was planning on using that money to earn from some other
sites to ay everyone but if it get froze I will be not able to do that
anyway. So Might as well give what I can back now, and just figure out how
to get money to the Alertpay members at a later date.

I feel I have been upfront with you all from day one even if there is a
problem. I told you within an hour of being hacked the money was gone.
I even tried to just refund the Alertpay money but was asked by to many
members to just keep going with the Alertpay accounts. So I did. Now I
feel that is one of the main reasons this site is having problems.
Those that were getting paid did not vote so people could see that I was
paying, and also did not put money back in. Even with a 50/50 site this
will not work with out support.

Any Alertpay members that are not have the required pending when paid
to be able to cash out with profit please continue to surf. For the
other you may stop surfing if you wish.

For the members that did do their part I thank you very much, and for
those that did not please try to learn from the others. Voting when you
get paid is what keeps a site going. People look to the monitors to see
when people are paid, and when it looks like only a couple got paid
then they go to the next site. The member’s participation is more
important than even the admins. 
I have been here every single day updating
through direct answers in MMG, and also Autosurf Authority forums, but no
one believes the admin when they say they have done payments if no one
has backed it up by voting.

I have a new business model that will take this industry and change it
forever but again that will take members and new blood. That will
always be a factor in any site no matter how much people like to claim that
if the admin is investing then new members do not matter. You can’t
invest small amounts of money and turn these kinds of profits.

I do have a way but it takes more money than I have in all the accounts
at the moment so I am going to plan b and that is to bring in real
companies to pay you for advertising, and referring other surfers. 
What you all do best. Stay tuned. This business model will be legal, and
detailed. 
It will not be announced until I have the entire supporting document
done, and that will take me a week or two, and that means I will need
the time to do it. So I will be zeroing out the account’s that need to
be, and stopping any compounding from members in profit or have enough
pending to be in profit as Alertpay customers. So the complaint will
stop for the time on the compound error that has never been fixed by the
programmer in two months.

The two members that I did suspend for ling on a bad vote will even get
paid. I said this before I will not let anyone loose money in my site
even if I had gotten hacked. This seems to be to hard for some to
understand but it is a fact.

I have asked the programmer a couple times now through e-mail to make
it so I could end the raffle but again have not seen or herd anything. I
will continue to do this until I have a response. If I have not gotten
a response by the time I get the new model ready I will make paper cut
outs of each ticket and do it the old fashioned way, and pull the
numbers out of a hat. This is only because of the fact the security of the
script required that the admin have no access to the cpanel so I can’t
do anything as far as programming myself or even get someone else to do
it except the programmer I have been mentioning.

Again I am going to delete all the support tickets. The Only thing I
want to see as a support ticket is a any missing upgrades from the old
system or interested members in the MLM. I will not respond to any
“where is my money?” support tickets. This has been explained in all the
forums and Boggs down admin time, and also space for support tikets
with current issues. I have members that still have messed up accounts,
and their support tickets are lost in the ones that I can’t answer
about where is the money. This again has been answered many times, and
still I get the payment request like for members that already are in the
recovery from the hacking.

This update is getting to long. I will get some more info ready in the
next couple days so I cant get you all to know where we are at.

Sorry things do not always work out the way they should, and what
people that succeed do to correct this is move forward with 
a way to correctthe past. SO that is what I am doing. 
I should have gone with my gut
feeling way back and refund the Alertpay money to what ever % would go to
each member but I did not, and I am sorry.

Thank You,
Mike
Mvpsurf admin

Play again

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Monday 20 November 2006 9:19 pm

I invested in EZsurf to Earn this morning, after about a week i didn’t reinvest on them because i’m lack of e-gold :p I saw many positif comments in many forums, and I check my friend monitoring service, he still listed EZ surf in the first page.
I saw no many changes in the site, no bad sign at this  moment. I think the program still steady and safe enough :)

I reinvest in 12by12day again today. Still beleive in them, my next payment schedule in Sunday. The pending amount in my account is not right, but I beleive it was only a glicth like usuall. The amount usually corrected by the time I received the money :D

Lazy Monday

Posted by bennq | My Journal | Monday 20 November 2006 9:11 am

New week has come. I feel a little lazy right now LOL. I didn’t get any payment and not invested in any program yesterday, maybe today I will trying to look for new program and play :) I think I will reinvested in EZsurf to Earn, but I will look for some comments in Forums and monitoring service. I feel a little uncomfortable because they open many new programs. Yesterday their new program launched, it called 3rd dimensionalads. I have bad experience in joined 2 programs with the same admin. They were Paid Response and Paid Exposure, 2 good program with the same admin. The admin name is Aaron. He was known as a good admin in the past, but finally he scammed after paying for 3-4 months. That’s why I must be very carefull to choose good program with the same admin. Even I didn’t lost at that time, but I had big hope on PE and PR, and that’s really surprised me they were closed that fast, that really beyond my prediction and calculation….

My friend said that Stacy help many admin program to built their sites, Stacy had many experience in running advertiser programs

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